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Gizmodo interview with Netragard – "Snake Oil Salesmen Plague the Security Industry, But Not Everyone Is Staying Quiet"

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https://gizmodo.com/snake-oil-salesmen-plague-the-security-industry-but-no-1822590687
Adriel Desautels was suddenly in a serious mess, and it was entirely his fault.
Sitting in his college dorm room back in the mid-1990s, Desautels let his curiosity run rampant. He had a hunch that his school’s network was woefully insecure, so he took it upon himself to test it and find out.
“My thoughts at the time were, ‘Hey, it’s university. I’m here to learn. How much harm can there really be in doing it?’” Desautels says in a recent phone call, the hint of a tremor in his voice.
It wasn’t long before he found himself in a dull faculty conference room, university officials hammering him with questions as a pair of ominous-looking men—Desautels says he still doesn’t know who they were, but it’s hard not to assume they had badges in their pockets—stood quietly listening on the sidelines.
Penetrating the school’s network proved simple, he says, and thanks to Desautels’ affable arrogance, talking his way out of trouble was easier still. Forensically speaking, he argued to the school officials, there was no way to prove he did it. It could’ve just as easily been another student, at another computer, in a dorm room that wasn’t his. And he was right; they couldn’t prove shit, Desautels recalls. One of the mystery men smiled knowingly.
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Adriel is a recognized leader in the information security industry with over 20 years of professional experience. In 1998, he founded Secure Network Operations, Inc., home to the renowned SNOsoft Research Team, which helped shape today’s best practices for responsible vulnerability disclosure. Adriel pioneered the zeroday Exploit Acquisition Program (EAP), later integrated into Netragard, and has served as an expert witness in US Federal court.

In 2006, Adriel founded Netragard to deliver high-quality, realistic threat penetration testing, now known as Red Teaming, and has since expanded its offerings to include mobile application security, source code reviews, web application assessments, and more. As the primary architect behind Netragard’s innovative services, Adriel continues to push the boundaries of research-based cybersecurity.

Frequently sought as a subject matter expert, Adriel has been featured by Forbes, The Economist, Bloomberg, Ars Technica, Gizmodo, The Register, and has appeared in documentaries and authoritative books such as “Unauthorized Access” and “This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends.” He is also a seasoned public speaker, presenting at leading conferences like Blackhat USA, InfoSec World, BSides, and the NAW Billion Dollar CIO Roundtable.